Archive for April, 2009

The following letter was sent to me by a friend  who shares my concerns.  I contacted the writer of this letter and received her permission to post it for all of you to read.


Good Morning Tim,

I just wanted you to know that I got such a blessing and answer to prayer last night.   It was at the Central Ohio District Assembly this week.

Dr. Diehl our G.S. spoke.  I was not able to attend except for last night when we had the Ordination service.   It was my first.   Our youth pastor was being ordained and felt I needed to be there.   The Lord impressed on me to go but I didn’t know why, other than to support our youth pastor and his wife.   Well, as Dr. Diehl began to speak he used the same passage that our pastor had used this past week.   My jaw dropped, the cat was out of the bag.   I have been having a hard time with having to keep what I know about what is happening in the church to myself.   I wanted to get my facts straight and give my pastor the time to research also.   Besides who would I tell?   Then it would get back to the person who is helping bring it into our church.   I was going to meet with my pastor and see if we could get a plan together to educate our church on this.

Dr. Diehl beat me to it.   He spoke on it last night using the passage in First Corinthians 16:13-14:  Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be men of courage; be strong.   Do everything in love.

He spoke against the emergent church movement in the Nazarene Church;  he even used the words new age.   He spoke it with passion.   My pastor was up front and I was in the back.   This is at Grove City, a big church.   I think he could hear me.  I had tears in my eyes the whole time he spoke.   My pastor knows for sure now that the battle is real

We need to pray for General Assembly.   I am so grateful that Dr. Diehl is so against this.   I am going to try to share what is going on in our church with my Sunday School class tomorrow. Our teacher may not know about it.  

Thank you for all you do.   I will keep you posted on how it is going.   Now to deal with the Walk to Emmaus also.   The Catholic Church just keeps coming in.   I wish they were not the church that had started all of this, but I must keep fighting.   I will not compromise the Word of God at any cost!   As Dr. Diehl put it last night, I will die first.

Feel free to share this story.   We will have someone fighting for us at General Assembly.   I wish I could be there. 

end of letter


I am glad that Dr. Diehl has the backbone to stand up and speak out about what is happening to the Nazarene denomination.  May the Lord enlarge his camp! 


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Here is a link from Slice of Laodicea.  The post reveals that Open Theism is taught at some Nazarene universities. 

What is Open Theism?  It’s yet another attack on the power and sovereignty of God who knows the beginning from the end.  Open theism teaches….maybe  God does NOT know the future.    



Here is the link that is referenced in Slice of Laodicea’s post about the presenters at the Open Theology Conference.   Be sure to look at all the Nazarene professors and pastors who are participants and endorsers of Open Theism by clicking on the Participants link.


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I believe that the hyperbole surrounding global warming is based on junk science and an environmental agenda.  Carbon is looked on as an environmental threat that is poised to destroy the planet if WE don’t reduce our carbon output.  


Carbon has been around since creation and is a vital part of the cycle of life.  Plants thrive on carbon and depend on it to live through a process called respiration.   ( Perhaps Rob Bell should do a Nooma called Respiration; I digress.)  People who operate greenhouses will sometimes introduce carbon dioxide into their greenhouses to help speed up the growing schedule in their plants if they lag behind and they want to meet a customer deadline.  It’s through the process of respiration that the plants take in the carbon and put out oxygen which is vital for our health.  The respiration process is another amazing God created (not an evolved process) and ordained way of revealing His majesty and sovereignty through creation.


The global warming and environmental agenda are also a part of the emergent church movement.   Their logo is a green leaf in the shape of a lower case ‘e’ which stands for emergent, earth friendly, unity, peace.  I see many references to environmental issues being pushed in our Nazarene colleges, as I have seen in their quarterly publications and from  other Nazarene publicatons.  Again, as stated in my previous post , I believe we need to be good stewards of our environment and not abuse God’s provisions.  What I am trying to point out is a pattern of  environmental liberal agendas that have attached themselves to the emergent church and infiltrated the Nazarene colleges.  Somehow the great commission came to include, or become more focused on saving the plant and being a community in the process.


This focus on a perceived environment threat seems to fit in well with a global agenda of unity of governmental control  and regulations over people.   Every big and small business person will be affected by the cost of implented controls.  Every consumer will be affected by higher costs.   As a past business owner, I would often take note of who the supporters were of liberal causes which  affected me, my family, business, and employees.


I listended online to Trevecca University’s president speak at the M7 Conference in 2007 on Teaching Revelation to Today’s Postmodern Crowd.  In the beginning of his talk he tells the listeners that we “ought to read Revelation through environmental eyes.”  You can listen to it online here:  



Another pattern I find within the emergent church movement is a downplaying of the Book of Revelation as being just a story, as well as a downplaying and redefining of Scripture to re-interpret what is written.    


Many evangelicals and Nazarene leaders seem to have be on board with  the Global Warming agenda and  have signed a document stating that they are concerned. 

Take note of the Nazarene signers to:



Also, take note of some of the more popular emergent signers such as Rob Bell, Brian McLaren, Dan Kimball, Alan Hirsh, Jim Wallis, Tim Keel, etc.

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I do believe in being a good steward of God’s gifts.  I believe we need to act responsibly and not trash our surroundings.  God created the heavens and the Earth for our pleasure and called it good.  I don’t believe it took millions or billions of years.  I don’t believe evolution can exist alongside of creation; it diminishes God’s power.  It’s a theory that is taught as fact.  Creation is a revelation of God.  He ordained the boundaries of the oceans.  He created order out of nothing.  We should worship Him and be in awe of His power and realize that the heavens and the Earth declare His glory.

Every year on Earth Day, I am reminded of the following Scripture:

Romans 1:22-25

   Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man–and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

   Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever.   Amen

How sad to see people lost, worshiping the creature and creation over the Creator.

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Southwest Radio Church is airing a three day program exposing the infiltration of the emergent and spiritual formation philosophies into the Nazarene denomination.




 Scroll to April 20,21,22,  2009  program dates.    Click on Windows Media Player


I am thankful for those who have given so much of their time to expose what is going on in the Nazarene denomination.  I pray daily for the church.

Acts 20:31

Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.

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I highly recommend Pastor Bob DeWaay’s new release:

The Emergent Church – Undefining Christianity    by Pastor Bob DeWaay 

For ordering information click on this link:   http://www.cicstore.org/servlet/the-61/The-Emergent-Church-dsh–dsh–Undefining/Detail


If you can afford to buy several copies, I suggest you give them to key leaders that you trust will read the book.   Give them to your church board members.

Many people do not understand what is happening to their Nazarene churches and to the universities.   This book will help explain what is taking place in an easily understood format.  Pastor Bob DeWaay is an excellent writer and a thorough researcher.

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The following is a list of some of the speakers that have been welcomed onto the campus and/or chapel pulpit of MVNU.

These speakers promote differing elements of emergent, liberal, and contemplative,  eastern/new age, or Catholic philosophies and practices to students.  
Welcoming these speakers to MVNU’s campus in an undebated or biased format is the same as endorsing and giving validity to their views and to the speaker’s published books to the students.

You will need to research these people for yourself.  One research tool is Lighthouse Trails Research located on the sidebar. 


2003  Chapel Schedule

October 8 – 9th  –  Brennan Manning  

2004 Chapel Schedule

October 27  –  Tony Campolo

March 29 – 30th  –  Prayer Labyrinth set up on campus

2005 Chapel Schedule

October 3 – 13th  –  Prayer Walk set up on campus

April 4 – 12th  –  Prayer Labyrinth set up on campus

2006 Chapel Schedule

October 8 – 18th  –  Prayer Walk set up on campus

October 11th  –  Tony Campolo

2008  Chapel Schedule

February 13th  –  Shane Claiborne  http://www.mvnu.edu/news/PressReleases/0708/claiborne.asp

November 19 – 21st  –  Brennan Manning scheduled, but cancelled due to illness

2008 Lecture/Artist Series

September  –  Dr. Christian Scharen

October  –  Dr. Eddie Gibbs

May 4th  –  Walter Brueggemann  http://www.mvnu.edu/news/PressReleases/0708/brueggemann.asp

2008 Youth Pastors/Directors Workshop  

May 6th –  Jon Middendorf     http://www.mvnu.edu/news/PressReleases/0708/youthleap.asp

2009 LEAP Seminar

May 7th  –  J.P. Moreland                  http://www.mvnu.edu/churchrelations/LEAP/moreland.asp


Prayer Walks and Prayer Labyrinths are somewhat similar in that they have 11 stations in which the participant engages in some form of experiential activity to make them feel a spiritual experience.   These practices come from Roman Catholicism.  I personally viewed the Prayer Walk at MVNU in 2006.  These forms of prayer practices are not found in the Bible, but teach a piestic, works-based method of encountering God.

For a good understanding of what a Prayer Labyrinth and Prayer Walks are typically like, go to this link and view it.  Listen carefully to how Scripture is used out of context and distorted.     http://www.yfc.co.uk/labyrinth/online.html

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